I really hope the mcu does him justice, unlike reed and sue who were terribly casted
Specialist-Chair3622025-11-07 16:41
It’s about damn time. I also don’t think it’s a question of moving Wolverine over for Cyclops. They are both interesting and compelling characters and I think MCU would do well to have a good balance between all the major players with the X-men movies whilst also delving deeper and exploring other characters through solo movies. That said, I am all for Scott and other characters like Storm to feature in way more important and interesting ways.
starlander20642025-11-08 07:20
Agreed. I loved the avengers because of the dynamic between Tony and Steve. They both had their moments individually and together. Scott and Logan have a similar rivalry in the comics. Lean into it and let them both shine.
Zoze132025-11-08 17:04
And to finally have a moment or two of genuine teamwork and combat camaraderie between Fox’s Logan and Scott is over due, would be awesome and fitting. Even if it’s just before Scott dies.
PuzzleheadedEmu45962025-11-07 16:59
When I was a kid I was a fan of Wolverine because he was a lone badass who got things done and couldn't understand why he didn't get the girl.
As an adult I realize he was a mercenary misanthrope with severe mental health issues but a desire to improve and do good in the world.
Cyclops was everything that Wolverine wanted to be but couldn't. He was already a team player who worked with people rather than rebelling against them and still did great good.
And that's why he got the girl.
Ragnarok_6192025-11-07 18:43
But Wolverine got a lot of girls
Left-Soup-49312025-11-07 18:56
Not the one he really wanted
PhaseSixer2025-11-07 19:37
The one he really wanted was Mariko and she was murdered.
EmperorChop22025-11-07 21:05
Wasn’t Silverfox the one he really wanted?
PhaseSixer2025-11-07 21:12
Silver fox is a major grey area cause writers waffle back on forth in what was real.
AtomicPlatypus452025-11-07 23:38
Didnt he have a wife that Winter Soldier murdered as well? Darkens mom?
PhaseSixer2025-11-07 23:41
Yup
AnonymousFriend802025-11-07 22:33
The one he truly wanted was Rose O'Hara. She's the one he truly stuck on. Jean sort of resembles her, that's why he was always chasing behind her.
OnlinePosterPerson2025-11-07 22:44
Is that the one Spider-Man killed?
AnonymousFriend802025-11-07 23:00
Spiderman wasn't even born yet. Hell, Ben and May weren't born yet either.
ImHighandCaffinated2025-11-08 04:42
He’s just like me fr
Punningisfunning2025-11-08 06:18
Wolverine’s writers don’t let him have happy lasting relationships.
No_Choice_63872025-11-08 00:10
Scott has Emma and Jean fighting over him while all of Logan's girlfriends die
Furlock_Bones2025-11-08 04:22
[Cyclops was right](https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fmedia%2FDhqoqMiWAAIZwUB.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=3ebac3368bd5daa6cf0b4bb89eab2d05f00564f591a95d476cd4613b7cd2f812)
Spiral_Slowly2025-11-08 04:40
I always liked cyclops as a kid. Looking back, I'm a wolverine.
ImDero2025-11-08 22:46
Unfortunately he's canonically never allowed to be happy and everyone he loves dies.
matty_nice2025-11-07 17:09
Cyclops being the centerpoint is a good idea.
But in theory, this could also have an impact on the roster. Gonna be hard for Cyclops to be the center if you surround him with equally as popular characters like Storm, Wolverine, Gambit, Rogue, etc.
Might be better to just go the O5 route so it's easier for him to shine.
PuzzleheadedEmu45962025-11-07 17:12
The point of Cyclops isn't that he's the most powerful, it's that, while powerful, his best ability is being a skilled leader who holds a bunch of extremely powerful people together.
matty_nice2025-11-07 17:16
I don't think his power level has anything to do with this discussion.
PuzzleheadedEmu45962025-11-07 17:22
That's how I interpreted your comment, as he would be outshined due to not only popularity but power level
previouslyonimgur2025-11-09 03:37
His power is that he’s earned the trust of his team of incredibly powerful mutants.
While he’s powerful in his own ways, the x-men don’t operate on a “strongest is the leader” concept.
Which is what makes the x-men fun.
abnthug2025-11-07 19:45
Basically they can give him the Cap treatment they did the MCU, he was never the strongest, but they did a good job of highlighting his character, despite how flawed it was and making it engaging.
If they can do this with Cyclops, I’m in.
romafa2025-11-07 17:26
I’m fine with that. We also need a while with no Wolverine so that whichever new actor they eventually bring in won’t have to live in the immediate shadow of Hugh Jackman.
Zing792025-11-07 17:49
This title is stupid. And Cyclops needs to be written properly.
How do you write a title that implies MCU should shelve its most popular mutant. A top 5 most popular marvel character and a top 10 most popular comic character. To make way for Cyclops.??
You don’t need to do this first all, to make Cyclops more important. And Wolverine has always worked best and been at the height of his own popularity WORKING OFF a fully fledged bad ass Cyclops (which the article itself implies).
This title makes me irrationally angry.
Ragnarok_6192025-11-07 18:58
A sensible comment
previouslyonimgur2025-11-09 03:41
A fully bad ass wolverine who respects cyclops with no questions asked, Is what makes cyclops so damn scary.
He’s earned the trust of his people time and time again, and they’ll fight for him and trust him to do the right thing.
Wolverine calls him Boy Scout for a reason. But it’s not an insult. It’s knowing that his own internal compass is broken, and cyclops is much better at it. So he trusts it.
jordanrhys2025-11-07 18:05
Cyclops and Mr. fantastic need to be the new Iron Man/Captain America.
mrbaryonyx2025-11-07 18:40
YES
literally all I want from these damn movies is "two protagonists who are always in the right in their own movies, but get their blindspots and flaws torn up by each other when they're in a crossover" why don't they do that anymore??
Sharikacat2025-11-08 07:35
You forget that Cyclops can be morally ambiguous as all fuck when it comes to protecting mutants, though it's not part of his "popular" design. He's not been above authorizing a black-ops mutant hit squad to take out targets. You could easily keep Cyclops as the boy scout of the group if you wanted to keep that dynamic, but he is capable of going into some very dark places.
holyshitsnowcones2025-11-07 18:08
I’d love this. Especially if it eventually leads to his turn to militant, mutant leader Cyclops. Would be an amazing arc to see onscreen.
previouslyonimgur2025-11-09 03:38
I mean would you have to do house of M first? That’s really what starts that.
2dal3atcave2025-11-07 18:18
GrandArchSage2025-11-07 18:35
When Disney first got Fox, my pitch would have been to sideline Wolverine and put Storm front and center. Now it looks like they're doing that, but with Cyclops instead.
AsteroidMike2025-11-07 20:39
Doesn’t mean that they can’t or won’t use Storm in a more productive way this time around so let’s see
Ragnarok_6192025-11-07 18:57
I don't want Wolverine to pave way for cyclops. This isn't musical chairs. Both need to be competently written
thisdopeknows4232025-11-07 19:04
One of my favorite moments in Logan is when he injects the serum and rampages through the Transigen soldiers. I think at first you only hear screams and gunshots and someone shouting “*it’s the Wolverine!*” and in First Class maybe when they release him from the Weapon X facility and just show the carnage he leaves behind. I would love for them to have him be a secondary character for a few movies and never really part of the team, then join in to a massive final battle and enemies actually panic because he is just so brutal and dangerous.
wondercube2025-11-07 19:10
I hope this (or another x-character) will be the focal point of the X-men corner of the MCU. I have had 30 years of movies primarily centered around Wolverine.
AsteroidMike2025-11-07 20:35
The best thing they could do is make Cyclops the main focus while also giving a lot more focus on the other X-Men characters than some of them were given in the Fox movies. X-Men 97 and the original cartoon did this very well giving everyone equal screen time and more than just 2 lines of dialogue.
And I don’t want Wolverine completely pushed to the side, either, just given the same screen time as everyone else.
WheedMBoise2025-11-07 23:20
If those rumors of the X-Men 97 crew being converted into live action via secret wars is true, this happens naturally
Educational-Ad30792025-11-08 03:36
Wait, what's the rumour?
WheedMBoise2025-11-08 03:39
I have no idea how legit, but i've seen a lot of online dialogue about them basically just tying that into the greater MCU somehow. If so, it'd be pretty cool. If not though i'm sure they're still going to focus on the rest of the characers more.
Drawsblanket2025-11-07 20:52
Cyclops is a fucking dweeb. He has always been the worst
a_o2025-11-07 21:31
who's getting cast, jonathan bailey?
barranquitas2025-11-07 22:20
Patrick Schwarzenegger would be a great choice.
HawkeyeP12025-11-07 21:33
Yeah, I didn't know Cyclops had it like that until I watched X-Men 97. He was so fucking badass. I feel like he might've been done pretty dirty by media in general.
Samaritan_Pr1me2025-11-08 02:51
I have my gripes about *X-Men 97* but that first episode made it plain why Cyclops is the one in charge.
NOT-packers-fan20222025-11-08 07:08
Same, total holy shit moment. Like “I’m sorry Cyclops, I was not familiar with your game.”
Hundredkilokev2025-11-08 08:46
I feel like I watched in real time the entire world have this reaction lol.
That first episode dropped and we were all on board with cyclops in a way that a lot of more casual marvel fans (a group I count myself as part of) weren’t previously
NOT-packers-fan20222025-11-08 15:36
Yep!
AnonymousFriend802025-11-07 22:35
The MCU was always really good about balancing characters and getting some character progression even in the tiniest bites. Civil War, Infinity War, and Endgame were full of characters who had their stories moved forward.
Hell, No Way Home was even able to bring back several characters from rival studios and progress their stories and give closure.
Ccjfb2025-11-07 22:51
Ok I like Cyclops as a leader and his power is formidable. But someone explain to me how laser eyes will translate well to the screen as the central form of action for a movie. I thought the big criticism of super hero movies was laser beams in the sky. I don’t see how a central role for Cyclops can avoid more of that.
Wolverine works so well on the screen because it’s all about supped up fist fights. Movie-goers will always love that. Nightcrawler, Rebecca’s Mystique, and Beast allow for more fun on the ground fighting.
So I guess I worry audiences will tire of big red blasts.
tehCharo2025-11-07 23:03
Cyclops can throw down with the likes of Captain America, he more often than not uses his fists to do the job over his optic blasts, why couldn't it work? Also the focus shouldn't be just on him, it's "X-Men", not "<Main Member> and the X-Men".
jojopojo642025-11-08 04:26
We didn't have too much of a problem with Iron Man's repulsor blasts, and the MCU found a way to make shield throwing cool for Cap. I'm sure we'll find ways for Cyclops to shine in the MCU.
ironcam72025-11-07 23:15
Cyclops, like in the cartoon please. Strong leader, badass, legend. Was so good seeing him like that again in xmen 97
anthonyg15002025-11-07 23:16
Ive never known much about Cyclops outside of Xmen Evolution and the Fox movies so he wasn’t much of a standout for me. But X Men 97 made me much more interested. He was cool, interesting, they even found little fun ways to use his powers. I’m happy to see him front and center
WheedMBoise2025-11-07 23:18
Cyclops and Wolverine should be the X-Men equivalent of what Tony and Steve had earlier in the MCU.
kbean8262025-11-07 23:50
I don’t hate Wolverine. But I am more than tired of him being the sole mutant anyone cares about.
Sharikacat2025-11-08 07:40
I'm glad we're past the era where he'd be shoehorned into everything. I actually wouldn't want him in the new batch of X-Men movies. Keep the character open for Hugh Jackman, and keep him with Deadpool. Marvel has more than enough X-Men that they don't need to use Wolverine. They could probably use Warpath as Wolverine-light to fill in the same combat role.
Girizzly_Adams_Beard2025-11-08 02:57
Let’s leave Wolverine in the cool support role. Not hogging the screen time. But always doing the cool shit.
Puzzleheaded-Arm-9882025-11-08 03:03
The thing is he's known as a boyscout which is already being filled by Cap.
ComfortablePlant31072025-11-08 04:34
Cyclops used to be ok, but nowadays he's just.... not.
THEbaddestOFtheASSES2025-11-08 05:07
All I can say is good luck with that. But the numbers show quite clearly how the films do when Logan isn't a major forefront of the story. I hope for their sake they can make it work.
M87532025-11-08 06:11
Because the actor still looks great.
JantosUndone2025-11-08 07:45
Cyclops has always been a favorite. My problem is aside from a few instances, they never get his power right. Sometimes they treat it like a laser, which it isn't. And usually they only have him to weak shit with it.
If he took the visor off, and he would wreck everything in literal sight.
Oh, and if him and fanboi wolverine went actual toe to toe, Logan gets obliterated.
real_slim_shadyyy2025-11-08 09:02
Focusing on the characters that weren’t prominent in the og fox and mcu after the reboot makes so much sense because the new actors won’t have to face extremely high expectations.
AKluthe2025-11-08 10:15
The Fox X-Men movies never got to just be X-Men, they were constantly Wolverine: featuring the X-Men.
It's funny Sony so desperately wanted a universe of interconnected Spidey films when Fox actually had a nice set up for interconnected X-Men stories. I'm not saying Storm and Cyclops need individual spinoff films (which is the dumb take some studio exec would have inevitably pushed), you can just have different teams and characters of different ages. Wolverine can be a character that shows up and crosses over between films.
Anyway, I'm rambling, let Scott have the role he deserves.
MaxziMize2025-11-08 13:53
Wolverine is my favorite comic book character of all time, but with that said Cyclops should be the Captain America leader of the X-Men and make him bad ass like they did in X-Men 97! I hope the mutant saga is front forward and the OG Avengers take the back seat after Secret Wars.
Realcbear2025-11-08 17:21
Scott Summers Truther Approved Post
repooc212025-11-08 19:17
Yes! Everything became too much about Wolverine. And I love High Jack(ed)man. It would have been something special if they committed to the X-Men as a team and Wolverine had spin-offs.
This next go around if Cyclops isn't a focal point they better run hard on the team as a whole
IdeaInside26632025-11-08 19:39
And they're going to give Jean, Emma's personality from the Academy days...watch them.
Jota462025-11-08 22:44
Yeah, keep trying to make fetch happen.
Fair-Night38032025-11-09 20:38
I think of the dynamic between Starlord and Rocket as a template for what we could see between Cyclops and Wolverine
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As an adult I realize he was a mercenary misanthrope with severe mental health issues but a desire to improve and do good in the world.
Cyclops was everything that Wolverine wanted to be but couldn't. He was already a team player who worked with people rather than rebelling against them and still did great good.
And that's why he got the girl.
But in theory, this could also have an impact on the roster. Gonna be hard for Cyclops to be the center if you surround him with equally as popular characters like Storm, Wolverine, Gambit, Rogue, etc.
Might be better to just go the O5 route so it's easier for him to shine.
While he’s powerful in his own ways, the x-men don’t operate on a “strongest is the leader” concept.
Which is what makes the x-men fun.
If they can do this with Cyclops, I’m in.
How do you write a title that implies MCU should shelve its most popular mutant. A top 5 most popular marvel character and a top 10 most popular comic character. To make way for Cyclops.??
You don’t need to do this first all, to make Cyclops more important. And Wolverine has always worked best and been at the height of his own popularity WORKING OFF a fully fledged bad ass Cyclops (which the article itself implies).
This title makes me irrationally angry.
He’s earned the trust of his people time and time again, and they’ll fight for him and trust him to do the right thing.
Wolverine calls him Boy Scout for a reason. But it’s not an insult. It’s knowing that his own internal compass is broken, and cyclops is much better at it. So he trusts it.
literally all I want from these damn movies is "two protagonists who are always in the right in their own movies, but get their blindspots and flaws torn up by each other when they're in a crossover" why don't they do that anymore??
And I don’t want Wolverine completely pushed to the side, either, just given the same screen time as everyone else.
That first episode dropped and we were all on board with cyclops in a way that a lot of more casual marvel fans (a group I count myself as part of) weren’t previously
Hell, No Way Home was even able to bring back several characters from rival studios and progress their stories and give closure.
Wolverine works so well on the screen because it’s all about supped up fist fights. Movie-goers will always love that. Nightcrawler, Rebecca’s Mystique, and Beast allow for more fun on the ground fighting.
So I guess I worry audiences will tire of big red blasts.
If he took the visor off, and he would wreck everything in literal sight.
Oh, and if him and fanboi wolverine went actual toe to toe, Logan gets obliterated.
It's funny Sony so desperately wanted a universe of interconnected Spidey films when Fox actually had a nice set up for interconnected X-Men stories. I'm not saying Storm and Cyclops need individual spinoff films (which is the dumb take some studio exec would have inevitably pushed), you can just have different teams and characters of different ages. Wolverine can be a character that shows up and crosses over between films.
Anyway, I'm rambling, let Scott have the role he deserves.
This next go around if Cyclops isn't a focal point they better run hard on the team as a whole